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CNBC Interview with Sadhguru in Davos PDF Print E-mail

CNBC Reporter: So what’s the connection between economics and spirituality? Well, I met an interesting visitor last evening and he taught me a new phrase: fringe spirituality. His presence sure causes a stir. Speaking impeccable English and no Hindi at all, Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev is the founder of the Isha Foundation. The WEF Handbook describes him as a spiritual leader, supporting efforts to link spirituality and commerce. I didn’t look at the specialization when I asked him what brought him to the World Economic Forum.


Sadhguru: The spiritual process is not really a fashion in that way – it is just that because in many ways the economical well-being has come to large numbers of people, at least in certain segments of the society, they find it is still not working somewhere in terms of well-being. So there is an urge to turn spiritual, but they might not be going totally out, so they are looking out for the fringe spirituality.

Reporter: Fringe spirituality?

Sadhguru: I’m hardcore. They are looking for fringe spirituality, where there is a spiritual Agarbathi, a spiritual candle, a spiritual bath soap, all these kinds of things. But fundamentally, this is happening because there is an urge to look for something else as fixing the outside has not really worked. 

Reporter: Have you been fringe spiritual in this World Economic Forum or holy spiritual – what has your participation been like? What essentially are you here for?

Sadhguru: I’m here to in some extent talk about economics as Inclusive Economics. And Inclusive Economics is only possible when people are in a certain state of mind and experience. Of the economic leaders in the world - every thought that they generate, every act that they do, has a huge impact on huge masses of people. So how there are within themselves is my concern. If we make them into truly peaceful and joyful human beings… see whenever a human being is peaceful and joyful within, his external activity is very concerned and generous and gentle. It is bound to be so. If I meet you when you are happy, you are a wonderful person. If happen to meet you when you are very unhappy, you could be mean, isn’t it?

Reporter: Have you been able to reduce spirituality to pop spirituality; a phrase, a Mantra, something that people need to follow? Do people come up and ask you for that – give me a line, give me a mantra?

Sadhguru: There is no line. Right now what I’m offering is called as Inner Engineering. So it’s a technology, it is not a belief. It is not just a philosophy or a belief system, it is a technology. As there is a technology for external well-being, there is a whole technology for inner well-being, which everybody must make use of, whatever they may be doing. But the leadership in the world, because they have such a big impact in everybody’s life, they are my concern, too.

Reporter: What is this technology – could you elaborate a little more for us?

Sadhguru: Like for example – see we are doing external engineering right now. See, your body doesn’t like the outside temperature in Davos right now. So here we are, having the right temperature for our bodies. This is engineering, isn’t it? Which has brought as external well-being. Similarly, there is a whole technology to create an inner climate the way you want it. If you had a choice of an inner climate, I don’t even have to ask you, I’m sure you would make it very joyful for yourself. You wouldn’t make it in any way strife-ridden.

So to be free from strife and stress, when people are handling huge responsibilities, and when their lives, their acts and thoughts, make a big difference for large numbers of people in the world, I think the first responsibility is that they must bring that peace and joyfulness within themselves, so that their lives become not in pursuit of happiness, but as an expression of their joy instead of operating from short-term ambition, they could operate from long-term vision for everybody’s well-being.

Reporter: Alright. Thank you very much, Sir, for your time. Thank you.

 
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